but as you know, when i first came here four years ago and they told me it was 160 or 170 slides in a powerpoint, i said, are you kidding me? i wouldn't even pay anticipation to that. attention to that. and we read a lot of material around here. it was a dysfunctional element to transition our folks back into civilian life. so does anyone have any comments on this pilot program that's working or at least started now? >> we actually had staff attend the first new tap pilot are program -- >> yeah. >> and it was mixed information that we received. we sat in with the briefings. um, we were impressed with some of the information that was delivered. we were very impressed that it's going to be mandatory which it should have been a long time ago. what we are doing is giving our feedback back to the va -- >> excellent. >> -- and letting them know where we think not only they can improve in their delivery of information, but where they can utilize resources like the american legion to express to these individuals how we can help them when they transition. in fact, the american legion has taken the initia